BDW 2 «Пять домов: Мудрость во времена хаоса», занятие 1

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Thank you so much, Sarah, Errol, that was... Hello again, dear audience, thank you for your presence a lot. My name is again Olena Poltoratskaya and I'm happy to announce that just in a few moments the first class with Geshe Michael Roach will begin. It is open to all tracks, so let's settle our minds and get ourselves ready to absorb all the wisdom from our dearest teacher. 

Okay, so Geshe La will be late for two minutes and it gives me an opportunity to thank a lot our dear Sarah and Errol for their incredible, beautiful offering just before the Geshe La's class. It makes our hearts opening, so thank you very much. And also I wanted to thank for the workshop, for the master class that was before, that was a real self-speech [?] before Geshe La's class, so I think we're all ready and our minds are waiting for this beautiful wisdom to sink into.

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Okay, first I would like to say hello to Miss Jasmine in Malaysia, hello to all you guys. Hola Hector. Hi Hector. 

Gelsay, I guess it's Gelsay, hi. Yeah, hi you guys. Thank you for coming, thank you for being there.

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Hector, I hope you go surfing afterwards, okay? Jasmine, go have a massage. Okay, you look good, you look good. Thank you for organizing that.

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Okay, I'll see you guys. Here we go. Today it's a short class, so we have to ... Yeah, okay. 

So, I don't know, about 35 years ago, my teacher ... is that comfortable for you, like that, if I hold it there? Is that comfortable for you? No. Okay. Okay, even an old man can learn. 

All right, yeah, about 35 years ago, my teacher started to teach us a special book. It was written about 400 or 500 years ago, and it's by the first Panchen Lama. He was a very great writer of poetry, and he's a great philosopher. 

I like him because he did a lot of retreats. He had a place very similar to Diamond Mountain, and when he was ... I told you this story, but he was in a retreat in a cave, and there was a disagreement between two mafia bosses, and they both brought big armies, and his food bringer guy, who bring the food to the cave, he said, uh, there's a big problem down in the valley. These two mafia guys are going to have a fight. 

So, a big fight in Tibet is like this, oh, yeah, Aldo yesterday, big, big, big war in Tibet. By the way, this is an old Tibetan joke, okay? What happened? Two people got ... hurt their foot. You know, so anyway, these two guys are going to fight with their armies, and the assistant told him, this is going to happen down in the valley, you can probably see from here.

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So, he's like, all right, give me my backpack. His backpack is heavier than my backpack, and he said, let's go down. He went down there, he stood between the two armies, and he said, everybody calm down, no one's going to fight.

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Let me see the two generals, come here. And they came, and the two are ... it's like the Bhagavad Gita, if you know. Everybody's ready to kill each other, and he talked to the two generals.

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He said, look, why is my backpack so heavy? I got two kilos of gold here. And, if you guys go home, I will give each general one kilo of gold. The two generals are like, yeah! Okay, they took the gold, they went home.

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So, he was a ... you know, I like him, he's probably funny, he's very funny. And he's a great poetry master. I was reading his poetry many years ago, about 25 years ago, his secret poetry.

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You want to hear this story? Okay. Abuelo like to tell stories. Ah, anyway, I heard there's 12 secret books in my teacher's Diamond Way Monastery.

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Then I want to read them. Then I couldn't get permission. Then my main debate teacher, he became the abbot of that monastery.

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So, I went there and I schmoozed, schmoozed him? I said, can I see those 12 books, you know? And I made him a big dinner and everything. I said, can I see those 12 books? If, by the way, it also includes how the Buddha became enlightened with his partner, with his spiritual partner. You know, like Ria and this guy.

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Then, you know, I said, can I see the books, you know? And he said, no. Then I'm like, grrr. Then, in those days, there's no internet, and I will get new books on CD-ROM by the mail, from the airmail.

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So, came some new CD-ROMs from ... we have a we have about 20 women are working to save the ancient books. They are typing. Next to the Diamond Way College.

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It's a same refugee camp. So, I don't ... they sent me the CD-ROMs for one month. And I'm looking at them, and I'm like 12 books are there, you know? All of it, all the 12 books are there.

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Also, all typed, all finished. Then I contacted this director, you know? You know her, Sunam Homo. And I said, you got those 12 books? Nobody can get them, you know? She said, ladies have special ways.

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So, I read them. There's a beautiful story of how Lord Buddha and his partner practiced to reach enlightenment. I think it would make a good movie, because when the sun comes up, the first light of the sun breaks the earth, and touches them together.

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They both become enlightened at this moment. It's very beautiful. So anyway, also, this teacher has secret poetry.

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So, I ... of course if it's secret, I want to read it, and it's unbelievable. And I translated about, I don't know, 50 poems. Then I did three-year retreat.

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During three-year retreat, the most naughty boy in New York, John Stilwell, he published that poetry in a book, without my permission. So, if you could find a copy, you could read some great Diamond Way poetry. And he also ... that Panchen Lama also wrote this book.

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This book is an argument in poetry, and the devil and the angel are arguing in the poetry. You know those pictures of the devil and the angel in one person's mind? So, it's a very, very beautiful poem, and it's very long. There are 600 verses.

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And I started ... my teacher started to teach it, but he never finished it. He passed away before he finished it. So, I always wanted to finish the book, translate it.

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And I've been working on it for 14 years, and I finished it last week. Okay? Then to teach it is going to take another 14 years, I think. Then Rosa and me will publish it. 

Where is Rosa? You got to meet me back here after the class. I have some important news for you. Behind here. 

Okay, that's my office. Okay. So, we are ... I don't know what verse we're on. 

We are ... we're on verse number 338. After 14 years. We're halfway through. 

Okay, I will try to speed up. So, let's let's go see. Now, the Dharma.

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We're going to talk about it tomorrow. In the ancient books, they call the Dharma one big ball of brown sugar. Raw sugar, brown sugar.

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And India is a big sugar producing country, and you know, the kids run around with balls of sugar, and then they say wherever you bite it, it will taste delicious. So, it means ... and we're going to talk about it tomorrow night. If your mind is in the right place, every Dharma you hear will connect with other Dharma that you heard.

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Anywhere you bite the sugar ball called the Dharma, it's the same. So, we are studying also the song of my spiritual life. We are studying the devil debates an angel.

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We are studying the perfection of wisdom from Tim this morning. Monday, we study Mind-Only School with Ward Smith, and then with Gibson, we're going to continue with his book about dependent origination, I guess. All of them tied together.

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And if you want to have some fun, you can try to see how do they connect. I'm teaching you from five different books in three days, but in the Diamond Way especially, there will be a secret connection between the five. So, if you want to have fun, try to see the connection.

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Okay, here we go. I'm going to read the English to you first, the poetry, and then we'll talk about the poetry, and the last 15 minutes, we'll do Q&A. And, so I did Geshe program for 25 years.

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We debate for three or four hours every day, sometimes 12 hours. So, Geshe's enjoy Q&A, and you're free to ask any strange question. Okay? Not only I don't mind, it's more fun for me.

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So, you know, by the way, I think I heard every question possible about 20 times. But, maybe you can find a new one, okay? But, what I mean is no pressure, okay? You can ask philosophy question. You can ask job question. 

You can ask how to fix your husband question. Okay? I'm open to it. Okay, so that's in about, you know, 15 minutes before we stop.

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Okay, now, first picture you guys. I can't see the picture. Is there an angel up there? Oh, there it is.

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Yeah? I still don't see it. Oh, okay, okay. Okay, this is the ... I think it's called the Angel of Freedom or not? Yeah, Libertad.

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I love this angel. I love that street in Mexico City where you go down the street and it's just one angel after the next, you know? Paris has like three of them on the bridge or something. Mexico City has like 20, and this is the nicest one I think.

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So, in the poetry, first the devil will talk for maybe, I don't know, like 10 pages, and he will say crazy, mean things, and then the angel will answer him. So, lucky, today, the angel came back. Okay, we had the devil for, I don't know, maybe six months, we had the devil, and it's kind of irritating. 

He's kind of irritating. The devil in your own mind is kind of irritating. Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! But finally he shut up, and the angel got to come back.

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So, I'm going to read the poetry, and then we'll talk about what it means, okay? Because, the first Panchen Lama, in this funny story he is hiding great great philosophy very deep, very deep. I finished the book last week, but I'm going to write an explanation, because you can't understand what ... it's very deep, you can't understand the poetry without an explanation, I think so, so that would take ... Rosa, that would take a few days. Okay, okay, the beautiful lady came back, and just relax, I'll read the poetry slowly. 

I'll pause every break okay? Here she starts talking, people eat, people sleep, they go, they stay, all the rest. They move their body an inch, they reach out, and they pull back. They say a single word, they sing a single song.

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They look with their eyes, and they, and live in distraction, and all the rest. $200. You ready Rob? Did we run out of money yet? Okay, I put some extra in there. 

Ah, $200. Okay, you ready? And it's a difficult question. That's why it's not $100. 

Why you guys so serious? You're supposed to be ... ah, ah, ah. Okay, listen. Inside of this verse today, there's a heavy Vajrayogini statement. 

$200, tell me what it's worth. $200, tell me where it is. Wait, raise your hand. 

The Tibetan? I don't care, any language. Tibetan? How about ... say again. You're close, you're close. 

Yeah, good. Okay, $200. There's a famous resort, Cancun, right? It's almost the same, Kyangkum.

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And KYANG means one leg is stretched out, and one leg is bent. Okay, got it? Very famous. It means if you really understand Diamond Way. 

Diamond Way means hidden, okay? $100. What is usually hiding in the Diamond Way? Yeah, those Guadalajara teachers probably sleeping. Okay, so something is hiding. 

What's hiding in the Diamond Way? The open way. That's pretty cool answer, but no ... yeah, it's a cool answer, but ... yeah, not yet. What did she say? Oh, the open way. 

The non-Diamond Way. The divine? The who? Divine. Oh, you're getting closer, but no cigar. 

We say no cigar. It means you didn't guess exactly. One more try. 

Three times, then I stop. Emptiness? No, no, no. Okay, what was your class about just before grandpa started today? I heard, I heard a rumor. 

I heard a rumor that a very good question came up in the class. Geshe La, last night you talked about many heart teachers. Then, you forgot to say which one's the real one. 

I didn't forget, I was tricking you. Okay, which one's the real ... I gave you like 12 choices. Who's the real one? Anyway, I think in your life, you will find that your heart teacher is maybe not the one you expected. 

Sometimes it is the one you expected. That's my case, but anyway. So anyway, he's hiding Vajrayogini in this verse, as if it was your heart teacher who looks like a normal person. 

Okay? He says, I'm talking about normal people. They, you know, they walk, they sit, they talk, they reach for things, they reach, they stand. Then in Diamond Way secret language, we call it twilight language. 

Reach and take. This is, this is Vajrayogini. Okay, understand? If I go this slow, we never finish. 

So, he's describing, she's describing, oh, there's just normal people. When the teacher says, just normal people, you have to say, haha, I know what you're talking about. Like a waitress in a New York restaurant. 

Just normal people. So, he's, she's talking about, let's just talk about normal people. Okay, I'm continue, okay? They have their desire, they have their hatred, and they have their dark ignorance. 

They have all of the 84,000 different types of negative emotions, everything else. They have jealousy, they refuse to share the things they have, they cheat other people, they lie to other people. All of that comes from causes and conditions which are very close by. 

Okay? All normal people have many negative thoughts. All normal people do bad things to other people, and the causes for that are always close by. Like me and Aldo, angel and the devil, they live together in your mind. 

She says the devil is always close by. Every nice person can get angry in two minutes, right? Okay? So, they're talking about that. Alright, one more. 

In front of us we see things start, we see things stop. We see things that exist from one moment to the next moment. Each one of them exists through labels, its own labels. 

How much money we got left? $100. I don't know, it's afternoon, they're so sleepy. $100! Ready? I mean I can change it to $3 if you want. 

It says here, all of these people, all of their problems, everything caused by labels. If you can give me a pretty good example of existing through labels, I'll give you $100. How come words [?] not having a hard time? He already took my money from many people. 

So, it's a Mindex shutdown [?], the classical example is ... Wait, you never pick a translator? We say it's like stealing candy from a baby. That's okay, it's okay Robin. It's bad luck to stop.

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It's bad luck to stop. Go ahead. It's okay. 

But if it's not exact ... The classical example is the pot on the stove, that you project your seeds on the pot. Yeah, that's a good ... Can you give us a little more detail? And when we say name and term, it's actually just picture in your mind. When you say ... Name and term. 

Or you can say label, yeah. Then how does that work? What's there, what's really there? What was there in the first place? Oh, we can only see the shape and color? Yeah, good. Okay. 

And we couldn't decide that it's a stove, and that is decided by our label in picture. Yeah, good. Okay. 

Okay, Rob, don't give the money yet. Where did the label come from? It's by your thoughts, and by your language, and by your action in the past. Okay, Gibson, one more detail, okay? That picture of pot on the stove, on the stove there's only silver color, round shape. 

You cannot see a pot with your eyes, it's not possible. Your eye is very stupid, your eye can only see colors and shape. The eye has to call the brain. 

Hello brain! Oh, what do you want to know? Hey, we got something out here, you have to decide what it is. Okay, what's it look like? We got a circle, we got a circle. Okay, so what else is there? Ah, silver color. 

Oh, what else you got? It's a black straight stick, something. Okay, hang on, let me let me call the fingers, okay? Call the finger. Hey fingers, you got any heat out there? Yeah! Oh, okay, hang up. 

Then talk to the eyes. Okay, I figured it out, it's a ... Geshe Michael's making tea for his teacher. It's a pot on the stove, okay? Where does the picture come from? Why does it see a pot? Because karma in the mind, okay? And that picture comes out of the seed in the mind. 

You're doing that your whole life. You're doing that right now with Geshe Michael. Geshe Michael's not giving a talk, you are creating Geshe Michael. 

Nice job, thank you. Then those seeds are opening in your mind. Pictures are coming out, but it's too fast, so you feel it's out there. 

Okay Gibson, take the money anyway, okay? And thank you for your hard work to be a translator and to translate the Song of My Spiritual Life, because we really enjoy the book. Thank you. Okay, yeah, so things coming from mental seeds, and you plant those seeds, and they are creating everything, okay? Okay, and in the ancient book, it's called label. 

Then if you ask, I don't know if you ask an American or a Mexican, what's an example of a label? You know, you go to the grocery store, they put a price on a label, and they put the label on the package of bread or something, okay? That's a label. Your mind is putting labels on things. Hey, Venerable Kading, what's the most irritating label in the grocery store? This is just a normal question. 

Why put a label on an apple? You know, how many million people today are like, god damn it, a label! Then you have to eat the glue after you take the label off, okay? But anyway, you understand the label. I want to hang those guys. Alright, okay, one more verse. 

They all depend upon something else. All of them are born from causes and conditions. They come about through a process of mutual dependence, and every single one of them is a companion to me. 

So, she's talking about how you put labels on things, and she says everything you see around you, you are putting labels on them. If you understand that things are coming from your labels, if you really understand, you would never be upset again in your whole life, because it's your label. Every person around you ... irritating person? You created them. 

You want to hear a Diamond Mountain story? So, I just finished teaching this idea. You can't be angry at people who irritate you, because it's coming from you. You cannot blame the other person, you're a stupid person, you really irritate me.

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You can't blame it on the other person. Number one, you created them. They are also a pot on the stove. 

Their mother thinks they're genius, okay? Always, right? They always think that. So, I gave this teaching, you know. Then some new students came in, and there's a one very irritating lady from, I don't know, East Coast somewhere, not East. 

And she's complaining about Diamond Mountain, you know. And all the Diamond Mountain veterans, like Earle Birney, they are standing around her, you know. And I said, how do you like Diamond Mountain? She said, there's an English expression, I'm surrounded by idiots. 

Everyone around me is an idiot. And there's all these Diamond Mountain veterans standing around her, and they just go like this. Because when you say you are surrounded by idiots, really what you're saying is, I'm a total idiot. 

The world is a mirror. Okay? So, she starts talking, the angel, she starts talking about how labels are her friends. And if you understand labels, you're not lonely anymore. 

Okay? There's always you and the thing that you created. If you're alive, if you're still breathing, you have many friends, which is all the things which are being created by your labels. So, she's going to start a very interesting conversation.

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She's going to say, I always have friends. I'm never alone. Why? I have all the people I made. 

I have everything I created with my labels. I live in the world, and I live among other people, and I created all of them. And she says, this is dependent origination. 

The world depends on my seeds. Therefore, I am never alone. And devil is always alone. 

And that's the name of this teaching this time. I think it's called ... what do I call this thing? The devil's loneliness. The devil's nature is to be lonely. 

When you don't understand seeds, and you don't understand where things come from, you are truly alone. Okay? But every person who understands dependence, the world they create, and the people they create, they cannot be lonely. Every good person is making friends. 

In English we say, did you make any friends when you went to school? But in Buddhism, you really made the friends. You created them. Okay? The person who understands Dharma is never alone. 

Okay? Because they have all the friends they created. Then I'll tell you one more story, then we'll do Q&A. Okay? So, I have an amazing friend in China, and he's a wonderful guy. 

He helped to build the cafeteria at Diamond Mountain. And this teaching, this poem really ... what do you call it? Disturbed his mind. Then he said, Geshe La, so, I'm not lonely. 

If I plant good seeds, I'm not lonely. That's correct. He said, yeah, but all those people my seed created them, they are me. 

They're just part of my mind. So, you said if I understand seeds, I will never feel lonely. But when I understand you talk about seed, I feel more lonely, because I'm the only person in the world.

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You know? All those other people, just my seed made them. Geshe La's sitting in a room with, you know, 200 Geshe-las. Then that feels really lonely.

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If I listen to you, if I believe your label idea, your seed idea, I feel more lonely. I feel like everyone is just made by me. Then he said, those people are not real, they are just part of me. 

Then I said, you should study a special book by Chandrakirti. Dharmakirti. You should study a special book by Dharmakirti. 

What's the name? It's a Gyushen Drupa, means the proof of other people. So, Dharmakirti lived about ... I don't know, over a thousand years ago, and he wrote a book about this question. If I make other people are they Michael or are they other people? And Dharmakirti said they are other people. 

They are other people created by you who are not you. Your seeds are so good, they can create a person who is not you. And that person is real and they are separate person. 

Then he said, teach me this book, teach me this book. Then I'm like, you know, my schedule is full for the next 20 years, okay? I'm like, I'm sorry, I don't have time. And when I say I don't have time, I say I don't have five minutes. 

To the end of my life, I don't have five minutes. I know, I know, okay? So, don't ask me to teach you this book, you know? He's like, how long will it take to teach me the book? It's pretty short. I said maybe eight hours or something, but I don't have five minutes. 

Then he said, I have a proposal. What? You teach me tonight. Teach me this book tonight. 

Then we'll start around seven o'clock and we finish, I don't know, in the morning at five o'clock. Then I'm like, you know, I also have to sleep, you know? Then he said, but I have a real good proposal for you. I will make you pizza. 

Fresh pizza. I will get a cook from the Hilton Hotel. He will come here. 

This guy's very wealthy. You know, with the white hat? He will make fresh pizza. We will eat pizza all night.

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Then I'm like, I don't know, you know? Then he said, you see that picture on the wall? I'm like, yeah, it's kind of ugly. It looks like a starfish or something? Yeah. I said, what is it? He said, that's a piece of ginseng. 

Ginseng root. It's a very rare bush, plant, and very expensive. And the rich people in China, they collect them. 

And they have, this one's 200 years old, this one's 300 years old, he said, that one's ... this one's $5,000, this one's $10,000, that one's $50,000. Geshe Michael, I make you a pizza with $50,000 ginseng on top. Then I'm like, okay, let's try. 

Then the cook took down the picture, cut the ginseng, and he made a pizza, and we started the book in the evening. You were there. You were there. 

What time we finish? I don't know. We quit at 3 a.m. We couldn't finish. The pizza's finished, the ginseng is finished. 

But someday we should do it, okay? We can use Mexican chilies, okay? Okay? It's more ... tastes better to me, you know? If you want to go ... you serious to go to Nirvana and then have my wife's enchilada chilies? Okay. Let's do ... yeah, so you created all the people around you, but your seeds are so good that they are separate people. And that's ... to live with those people is to be in Vajrayogini's Heaven. 

Okay? That's how we go there. You don't go in a ... you don't go in a Tesla, you go in your mind. Okay? No BYD, sorry. 

Okay. Alright, questions? And Rob, you want to choose? Okay. Don't confuse, this is not where we give them money. 

Thank you Geshe La for teaching us. I have two questions. First, I want to know how many heart teachers we can have? Yeah, it's a good question. 

If you think about labels, and if you understand that your heart teacher ... you created your heart teacher, then you can have eight billion heart teachers. If you include the animals, it's a hundred and eight billion. Did you know one hundred and eight? Okay, so yeah, you can have many.

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It's not that you have to say, I'm loyal to Geshe Michael. I only have one. I think if you live a long life, like I have lived a long life, you will develop a relationship with one heart teacher, but you will see them in many places, inside of many people. 

That's my personal experience. Okay? Thank you. And my second question ... That's cheating, okay. 

No, go ahead, go ahead. I'm confused about motivation. In Lojong, you teach us that we have to take care of us and others, and sometimes I heard that the higher motivation is to take care of others, and you don't think how you will get for you. 

So I'm a little confused about this. My second question is that I have a question about motivation. In Lojong, they tell you that you have to take care of others before yourself, and then ... First. 

In Lojong, the others and you, and in the higher motivation, the others first. I have a beautiful answer, okay? The good thing to have a Abuelos have many stories, because they live a long time. So, at Princeton University, to get your undergraduate degree, first four-year degree, you have to write a thesis, even as an undergraduate, as a young student. 

Then ... So, and in Princeton you have to write one after three years, and you have to write one after four years. It's a lot of pressure. My classmate committed suicide, because he couldn't finish his thesis, and it's a lot of pressure. 

So, I went to India, I finished my thesis about Danaparamita, Perfection of Giving. Then on top of the thesis, you have to do ... we call it defense, you have to answer questions. So, you know, I went into the room, and two tough, tough professors there, and if you don't give a good answer, you don't graduate. 

Then they asked me many questions about Danaparamita, Giving, Perfection of Giving. Then finally we come to this point, you know, and they said, you did a pretty good job, but we have one final question for you. When you do giving, when you try to help all living beings, are you one of those beings? And I didn't have an answer clear in my mind, and then a lawnmower came outside, and then I heard the answer in the lawnmower is a strange thing. 

And I said, yes, you are one of ... you are saving all living beings, and you are one of them. So, when you save all living beings, you must save yourself also. Otherwise you didn't save all living beings. 

Then they look at each other, and they say, pass! You know? With honors! You know, like high, high degree. Oh my gosh! Okay, alright, don't forget. Okay, other question. 

Oh, there's a clock. What time I've stopped? Six. I'm supposed to stop at six? Hello. 

One more. This is the last question. Thank you, Geshe La, for teaching us. 

You're welcome. My pleasure to be here. My question would be, when we are talking that out there, there are just like colors and shapes, and from that point we are like interpreting reality based on dependent origination, and from there you can self-label, etc. 

That would imply ... Wait, wait, you're going to give the chance here. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. When we talk about the perception, how you perceive reality, that out there are just shapes and colors.

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Then that would imply that colors and shapes are not empty, and they are existing in their own. Where would be colors and shapes coming from? Yes. You can do a self-existent translation.

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Yes, so if we just see colors and shapes, where would be colors and shapes coming from? Si solo vemos colores y formas, sabiendo que todo es vacío, ¿de dónde vienen entonces los colores y las formas? Okay, it's nice to have you here by the way, from Peru. Yeah, nice to see you. This morning we talked about the difference between the higher middle way school and the lower middle way school.

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So, we can use this green bottle. The color is green, and the shape is a bottle shape. My mind labels bottle, and I enjoy this bottle. 

It's good for me to drink water. So, my label came from a good karma. If you hate qipao shui, if you hate sparkling water, the same green color and bottle shape came from your bad karma.

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Then my mind makes a ... my seed opens, green color comes out, bottle shape comes out, water comes out, I feel happy, I made the bottle. Then the question, new question comes up. The bottle is one thing, but the green shape, sorry, the green color and the bottle shape, that was here before I came on the stage.

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So, who made that? I wasn't even here, right? And then the lower middle way says, oh, that green color and that bottle shape was made by somebody else. That was here when you got here. The raw data doesn't come from you.

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The color and shape is really out there. Then the higher middle way says, no, everything comes from Geshe Michael. The raw data, the green color and the bottle shape came from you, but I was in the back.

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Come on! You created the whole universe. You're also not sitting on Mars right now, but you created Mars, okay? You can create many things that you can't see, then you can see them. So that's the answer to that question.

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Okay, cool. Alright, we'll continue tomorrow. We'll continue with the angel and the devil, and then in the evening I'll teach the song of my spiritual life.

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We'll go back to Diamond Way. Right? We did Diamond Way last night. We leave Diamond Way for two classes, then we go back to Diamond Way, right? They have to say, no, Geshe La.

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It's all Diamond Way. Okay? Alright, see you tomorrow. Thank you.

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Thank you, Aldo. Thank you, Aldo. Thank you, Nila. 

Nice. Oh, there's a stupid... Thank you, our precious teacher, for such an amazing class. Thank you, all the audience, for being present here.

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